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 Post subject: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:34 am 
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Are Anti-tea-party infiltrators are instigating the idea of bringing guns to this summers Tea Parties?

We Allege that, we are witnessing what we believe are obvious anti-tea party infiltrators on SodaHead and other blogger sites, telling us to bring guns to the tea parties!

While we fully support the 2nd amendment right to bear arms, we are worried these infiltrators are speaking as if they officially represent the Tea Party Organizations and Affiliate Groups themselves, when they say to do so.

We are concerned over the legal issues of public safety, in telling people to bring guns to all such events, ….In which we see that would be nothing more that a Liability Problem for the Tea Party Movement, …In which these infiltrators are hoping things will go badly by breaking any laws against bringing guns to publically held events ( where such actions would be illegal in various States ) ….for the purpose of helping the Federal Government to one again Unconstitutionally apply RICO Statute Prosecutions against the Tea Party Movement ( As the Federal Government had done against the Pro-Life Movement in the past )

All it would take, would be for a safe environment of law breaking to be provided, whereby tea party participants were to illegally bring guns, to such public events, where for public safety laws and statutes, such activity is currently illegal in so many locations, ….Where all it would take would be for some crazed individuals ( with an agenda to harm other individuals )

To suddenly show up { under the umbrella of so many other guns being openly displayed ) and then proceed to shoot individuals and or private property at the same time, ….And thus cause the Federal Government to manufacture a RICO or similar type of case against the tea party movement { Citing that the planned and executed public display of firearms, provided the environment of risk to the public health and well being, in which violence was launched, under the umbrella of such activity }

And thereby, via, what we believe to be, the Far Left Agenda, Federal Government Infiltrators, ….In so engaging in the practice of trying to force, and use emotional, and intellectual, Black-Mail, …To try and force people to bring guns to the Tea Parties ( For the sole purpose of Bankrupting Legal Judgments, and Criminal prosecutions, …To cause the Conservative Movement to be Sabotaged, and so Destroyed in the process )

If the Tea Party organizations, themselves, ….Were to have such an official position, and invite, and encourage, the bringing of Fire Arms to the Tea Party Events ( In spite of all possible Legal Issues that would be created ) ….Incase anyone used the umbrella of such events, to also bring their own guns, and launch a campaign of violence { Which would then open the Tea Party organizations up for Legal Troubles } ….Then don’t you think the Tea Parties would make it publically known that they allegedly endorses the bringing of Fire Arms to the Tea Party Events????

These infiltrators, believe they are being clever, in accusing people of being “Commies,” or having “No Guts,” …..or for beings “Wimps, with no real convictions,” etc.., ….For not supporting the bringing of Fire Arms to the Tea Party Events!!!!

We therefore need to make everyone involved in the Tea Party Organization, and Events, and whatever Media Outlets, which are willing to be Fair and Balanced in presenting the Publics Right To Know, …..That such infiltrators, possibly through Acorn, or other such organizations, are exactly what we are alleging is taking place.

Thank You

Mike1111mike


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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:39 am 
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Thanks for the information. Very disturbing. I think all the Tea Party Organizers need to let people that come out know that fire arms are not permitted only because the wacko's in ACORN etc. and in our government these days will use it against our movement. I would also hope that some in the media would know that the decent people who come out to the Tea Parties wouldn't shoot other protestors. It just doesn’t make sense to go to a protest with like minded people then start shooting others. I say no guns at all.
John

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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:50 pm 
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I agree, no guns at all! The Tea Parties have been a huge success. Let's not let the libs destroy our mission nor our focus. I, too, support our gun rights, but the rallies need to look totally peaceful and stick to the issues of small government, etc. The libs are looking for any angle at all to derail us.


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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:59 pm 
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Ok I have been following politics since I was 17. I would say my views were pretty socialist when I was that age. Your taught all those things in schools by teachers that have the same views as most liberals. When I graduated I became more and more conservative, now I can actually say that majority of Republicans aren't conservative enough for me. I'm not a loon and I think it would be leftist conspirators wanting to stop the tea party movement and bringing guns are the perfect way to do it. BUT, I am growing sick and tired of this government and all of the elected officials. My friends and I all have similar views and I have to tell you, we're growing sick and tired of talk and don't have any violent tendencies but I feel like when I hear a liberal talk I could punch them in there face and hurt them. This movement needs to switch gears soon and move foward. Our founding fathers would think of us as peasant wimps. They wouldn't stand for this, they revolted over less. I'm tired of taking this from the government, they take enough of my check a week on top of tax on gas to everyday items you need to survive. Alot of us want more to be done, Protests are pointless. I can't say what we should be doing but I know that we should stop wasting our time with protests unless you want a protest that's going to scare them like camping outside congress "peacefully" and surround the building so they can't leave. SCARE THEM. There sissies. The mass liberal media made the 9/12 march look like nothing, no one even knows about it but conservatives. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. Our founding fathers would have walked into the hall of congress dragged these politicians outside and hung them. Yes guns are bad and shouldn't be brought but we need to amp it up. Most of us are done talking and protesting "peacefully". If you demonstrate chaos and your a liberal your not labled anything but misunderstood, but if your a conservative and you do that your a right wing NUT. Well I am a right wing nut and there disgusting spending and new absurd laws made me this way. The school systems that brainwashed me to believe being a liberal was right made me this way. They made me a conservative from all there lies and I'm glad for it. I'm 23 years old and lost my business about a year ago, now i'm working construction so my family can eat. I have two kids and it's tough. I'm doing what I have to so we can live, no job is beneath me. Things must change fast because were past words now, there must be action taken.


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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:36 pm 
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Why would you deny someone's constitutional right to carry a concealed firearm for self-defense? What hypocrisy.

Mark


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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:36 pm 
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patriot wrote:
Why would you deny someone's constitutional right to carry a concealed firearm for self-defense? What hypocrisy.

Mark



I wasn't... I was just saying things need to be taken up a notch. There is nothing wrong with carrying a concealed weapon. We just shouldn't bring them to these events. Why use use guns when you can use other means. I have already discussed the "ways". Sounds like you may be an "Infiltrator" huh?


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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:52 pm 
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Neworder1932 wrote:
patriot wrote:
Why would you deny someone's constitutional right to carry a concealed firearm for self-defense? What hypocrisy.

Mark



I wasn't... I was just saying things need to be taken up a notch. There is nothing wrong with carrying a concealed weapon. We just shouldn't bring them to these events. Why use use guns when you can use other means. I have already discussed the "ways". Sounds like you may be an "Infiltrator" huh?


No, I'm not an "Infiltrator"; are you a "Provocateur"?

I'm not willing to surrender my rights because the left is sending in their goons. I would never carry in the open to make a statement. While the Tea Parties I've attended were friendly gatherings, there is always the possibility some nut will open fire. If that happens, you will wish you carried too.


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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:30 pm 
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Well don't you think a few hundred people could subdue an attacker that is armed. The "gunmen" would kill just as many people even if someone had a gun there. Most people's reaction is "to survive" either jump on him or run. I would jump on him and so would alot of other people. We don't need guns at tea parties, i'm not saying you can't. But you shouldn't, you'll be around friends with the same thoughts as yours. If you were to bring a gun and it were for self defense then no one would know. If you do, keep it to yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:42 am 
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Neworder1932 wrote:
Well don't you think a few hundred people could subdue an attacker that is armed. The "gunmen" would kill just as many people even if someone had a gun there. Most people's reaction is "to survive" either jump on him or run. I would jump on him and so would alot of other people. We don't need guns at tea parties, i'm not saying you can't. But you shouldn't, you'll be around friends with the same thoughts as yours. If you were to bring a gun and it were for self defense then no one would know. If you do, keep it to yourself.

You are not a student of history are you? 20 percent will panic, 60 percent will freeze, and 20 percent will take action which is usually to take cover. Name one case where someone started shooting in a gun free zone and anybody there at the start of the attack took him down; just one. I can name many where an armed citizen put an end to their attack limiting the casualties.

If we surrender our rights to our opponents, they have won. They've played you like a fiddle.

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 Post subject: Re: Infiltrators say bring guns
 Post Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:43 am 
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Fake Tea Party in Michigan:

Don't sign the petition. This is a "Fake" Tea Party" registration hoping to siphon off votes and support for a real Tea Party person. This fake party is funded by George Soros who "just happens" to be President Obama money man.

http://www.outsidelansing.com/

and..................

http://www.freep.com/article/20100517/N ... lled-trick


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